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Nuke,
As evident in your page name you are well acclamated in generating paper. I heartedly appreciated the "politaclly correct" submittals by my IH when I worked at Hanford and Savannah River.
I majored in Civil with the emphasis on Structural Engineering when I attended college. Nothing can be more applicable in the boom business. The knowledge of and physics never matched with the application for what I endeavor upon.
I agree with Demobud, nothing wrong with an education...use it well when you can.
I was just saying about some of the kids today are looking to make a fast buck and not “working” for the salary. I know there are student loans and other debts. But, as Blast said we are living in a society that kids want to sit back and relax without “hard” work.
I have had young kids just coming out of college, thinking they know everything and expect to be paid for the degree they hold. They don’t have any experience at all either in the field or in the office.
I have suggested many times and I will continue to tell them try and get an internship at a construction type company so you can gain that office and field experience. I will look at that more then just a degree.
Nuke, I never meant to imply that a college degree was useless, I have a degree in Industrial Psychology with a double minor in history and sociology. I only meant that it is wrong thinking to expect to get out of college and begin making top salaries especially in the demo or construction business.
I expect my kids to go to college, but I also expect them to be able to work hard for their rewards. Yes, earning a degree requisites some reward, but in our industry experience is the key, and education and experience make for a better person.
7:15 AM
September 22, 2006
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Nuke..you got to be more than just book smart and have a college degree to be in the demolition business.They dont teach you to implode and knock down buildings in college..That is somthing you haft to learn by working in the field and learning from your mentors.Ive been in this business for going on 15 years.I have no college degree but I can crunch numbers with the best of any college math person. what most poeple are looking for when you submit a resume is JOB EXPERIENCE..I wont hire anyone if they went to college and have no experience. Its not all juts having some kind of Degree in this business
James,
I went to college and stopped once I figured it would never be truly applicable in the implosion/demo business. Experience, hard work and hard knocks teach us.
For example, I noticed some "implosion simulations" at the base of one of your pages. I would not bet my reputation on a simulation. Generated by a college grad?...Probably...what can one learn from this...nothing! It does look impressive though. One more question, what happens once the actual implosion doesn't go the same way as the simulation? Do we blame the computer?
I was going to say the same thing Blast. I think most of us on this forum are hard working and have put in our time and know what you are talking about.
It is a shame when people get right out of school and expect X amount of dollars.
It’s funny you should say that, I just had a conversation with someone this week about that we both never went to college and had friends that did and how we are by far further ahead then they ever were. I have a friend that went to college for 4 years has a degree and he is a manager at McDonalds, no joke.
Demobud,
You're not soapboxing!!!! We learned the fundamental basis of being a man, which in turn, built this country. Benchmarks of WORK ETHICS were instilled in us (or our backsides). Reflecting on those benchmarks and bootmarks, I am very honored I was disciplined towards working hard. It pays off!
As far as any person or corporation making money off of people, products or services, that's business. Sometimes we can feel like non-profit organizations that are regulated and litigated to the extreme. We work hard, work smart and as Solomon says "there is nothing better than to enjoy food and drink and to find satisfaction in work". When I sleep at night it's because I worked hard.
I remember my grandfather telling me how tell if a man was going to be a good worker, he said " If a man comes to you looking for a job think twice, if he comes looking for work you should hire him." I know it sound simplistic, but I have always remembered that as an indicator of a persons attitude about work.
I have a younger friend who is constantly complaining a bout how his boss is making money off of him. I finally told him, "Look thirty years ago your boss was doing what you are doing for him. You have to put your time in and learn before you are compensated like he is!"
It chaps me that kids think that they are entitled to a high paying job right out of school. My brother-in-law is a cardiologist and makes a very nice salary but when he was a resident, he made 30,000 and lived in a one room apartment in New York with an 1800 a month rent. Ya gotta put your time in!
Sorry for the soapboxing.:)
Blast, isn’t that the truth.
Well said. Everyone is in the mode of where can I make a quick and fast buck. Instead of working for it, they expect a hand out, actually they almost demand it.
In this same article it talks about how 90% of College Grads do not want to work for a construction companies. Which to me doesn’t make sense, to me working in the construction industry is one of the most satisfying industries you can work in and you can make great money in it.
The catstrophe we will also encounter is the inevitable and most asked questions by the "new" generation...how much will I make? When I worked for my father in this business over 30 years ago, it was the last question you asked. Now it's the first one you hear.
What's easier, sitting behind a computer and generating spam for an alleged good pay or working hard for your money?
We have generated a complacent society and wonder why all the jobs go overseas or immigrants have inundated our work force.
I saw this in a recent article
By the year 2008, there will be a shortage of 952,000 skilled workers in the construction industry.
The industry will need an additional one million new people each year thereafter
Presently, the average age of workers in the skilled trades nationwide is 48
Those born during 1945-1950 will start retiring 2010 and 2015
I guess we all need to start recruiting in high school, before they hit college.
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