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Non-Toxic Hydraulic Fluid
July 13, 2006
9:59 AM
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James, you're very welcome, anytime I can help just let me know.

July 13, 2006
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Mike thanks for chiming in. I think you have helped alot.

July 12, 2006
9:48 AM
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It's a small percentage of jobs that require the vegetable fluid. The majority of our rentals for long reach equipment use the usual fluids. Some of our rentals are long term where the customer services the equipment on-site. We don't want the wrong hydraulic oil being mixed with the vegetable oil due to the problems discussed earlier in this thread by demobud.

Mistakes can and do happen so we try to circumvent that possibility.

I hope my explanation answers your question.

July 12, 2006
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Why not use the non-toxic fluid in the machine year round?
Is there a drawback to doing this?

July 11, 2006
7:54 AM
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Clearly, the capacity of the hydraulic tank dictates the cost along with doubling up on the filter replacements.

I want to say the cost was approximately $2-2,300 which also included our internal labor.
However, from the customers view point, that's a darn sight more affordable considering the clean-up charge & possible fines levied from the regulatory bodies that will be swarming all over the job-site should the equipment spring a leak of non-vegetable oil in the area!

July 10, 2006
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Mike:
An expensive process, meaning because it was a high reach or in general?

July 10, 2006
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Neyc, we have in the past been asked to supply long reach excavators with environmentally friendly hydraulic oil.
I'm not by any means an expert on this but as I remember, we drained the hydraulic tank, changed the hyd filters, flushed the whole system out, filled the system with "Clarity" and then repeated the process again including changing the hydraulic filters.

An expensive process to be sure but the customer was responsible for it.

One thing to remember Ensure your service technician makes a note to inform the mechanics or customer who'll be topping the machine off daily that it must be topped off with Clarity as serious damage can occur if regular hydraulic oil is mixed with the "Environmentally Friendly" oil.

July 5, 2006
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demobud said:
There is no difference in oil performance, but I was told by my oil supplier to make sure that you don't mix the soy oils with the petro based oils.

That is what I have heard also, and to make sure you do flush the system well.

Maybe Mike from Rhine Equipment can chime in.

Mike?

July 1, 2006
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Neyc, you shouldn't have to do anything but flush the system to remove as much of the petroleum based oil as possible. The soy derived oils won't compromise your seals and wipers. I would stress though that a system flush is vital. I have used Mobil EAL 224 in a couple of Bobcats while working in a food processing plant. There is no difference in oil performance, but I was told by my oil supplier to make sure that you don't mix the soy oils with the petro based oils. My guess is that the viscosity differences might cause oil breakdown.
There are other brands out there but I think they all run in the $15 a gallon range.

July 1, 2006
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Anyone had any experience with using Non-toxic hyd. fluid? We are close on a project that is environmentally sensitive and they require this fluid. I am told it is vegetable based. Any comments, complaint, info???
Are you able to just empty and refill existing equipment or do we have to refit anything.

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