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Thanks Sparffo. I always had my problems with the clued stuff. Still have one at home but want to replace it with some nice hardwood flooring so that video will help me a lot to get rid of the old flooring. 
demopro;7083 said:
i tend to use a bobcat with a super scraper attachment it can do about 15,000 square feet a day but if you can get your hands on a terminator machine they work just as well but might be a little harder to find. If you absolutely need to get all the mastic up shot blasting is the way to go and that can do about 20,000 sqaure feet a day of mastic.
Here you have a video that i took at one of our sites!
YouTube - Bobcat 463 stripping floor mat
in the video site space is a little bit limited, so that slows down a bit...
But the bobcat 463 is way faster than anything else when removing glued carpet!
the remaining glue has to be removed by a diamond floor grinder, if necesary.
Next week i will get a Simex PLB 300 Swinging planer to my line up, it will be interesting to see how it works! I think it can be really good to remove tiles from the floor with the brokk 180.
I have also plans to use it on asbestos floor coating removal, before that i will add some wacum suck fittings to it.
here in Finland it is quite common that comersial buildings has floor plates that have asbestos in them, and usually they are also glued with a black glue that contains asbestos.
Simex - Swinging planers
6:55 PM
February 18, 2006
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NEYC, I have looked for the attachement you refered to for the skid steer, but cant find it. I would be interested in picking it up if it will work. After talking to the GC some more the last few days, as long as I can get a majority of the mastic up, then just the friction from the loader, JCB, lifts, peoples feet, etc should be enough to clean the floor of the majority of the mastic before the new carprt goes in. They have done a bunch of these stores before and said thats what has been done before and worked well.
He also said tonight that they wanted an alternate on leaving the flooring in place and putting the new floor down on top of it. He suggested not doing this, but he can only give them what they ask for. I told him I cant gurantee the condition of the old floor once I am done, and that more than likely it will be pretty much destroyed.
The problem with the superscraper is this: It will not scrape any yellow glue. If the yellow glue is gooey and sticky, pieces of tile are going to stick all over the floor, making cleaning the floor a little more difficult. We take the dust from our shotblaster and sweep it around on the yellow glue and it takes the tackiness out of it.
The straight blade scraper will eliminate alot of that.
I would not agree to 70% of glue removal. I would say all or as much as comes up with tile. I think it is hard to qualify 70% of glue removal.
If you get them to agree to all, then shotblast the floor.
5:24 AM
That super scraper attachment might be tough to work if you have a tracked skid steer, although i cant say that out of experience, but it works best when u swing the machine side to side to scrape up the tile
6:01 PM
February 18, 2006
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I dont have to do any asbestos sampling, they take care of that. The 70% is the number that i used from the previous post, and the GC was fine with that number. The glue is yellow, I pulled up a tile while i was there. I am going to look up the scraper for my trackloader. If it will work as well as the dedicated floor stripper that I can rent I will get that as the rental is almost 7000 for this job.
Do you asbestos sampling report?
How will you qualify 70% mastic removal?
Is the glue black cutback adhesive or yellow glue?
We just bought an attachment for our skidsteer, not a disc but a scrapeing set-up. We bought it at Aramsco.
Check it out, cost about $4,500.00
1:37 PM
February 18, 2006
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Went and looked at the site, the old grocery store is totally there. As in they packed up the food, electronics, and personal effects and left. Every display, checkout counter, safe, appliance, mixer, refer case, etc is still there! The floor is what I thought it was, glue down 12X12 tiles. 70%+ mastic removal is ok also. :spinningsmile:
6:38 AM
February 18, 2006
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If you look at thebluebook.com and research south florida for demo jobs the job comes up with a full set of drawings online to view. The GC is pinnacle constructors.
6:36 AM
February 18, 2006
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I am going down to take a look at the area either tomorrow or tues, and make a list of notes and questions for the GC while I am there. They do plan on putting down carpet in much of the area not tile, and it is the commercial glue down type, so I would assume that the more thats removed the better.
Yea, shot blasting is another way to go. I know when using a Terminator it does a pretty good job of getting the mastic up.
7:04 AM
i tend to use a bobcat with a super scraper attachment it can do about 15,000 square feet a day but if you can get your hands on a terminator machine they work just as well but might be a little harder to find. If you absolutely need to get all the mastic up shot blasting is the way to go and that can do about 20,000 sqaure feet a day of mastic.
Well see how clean they want the flooring surface.
You can rent a floor buffer machine with grinder heads that will get all the the mastic removed. Or some machines, like the terminator, will get a lot of the mastic up.
5:04 PM
February 18, 2006
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Sunbelt rentals can get me a machine like this, and I will definatly use it if it is the best method. I am mostly concerned about the mastic that is left over more than anything. I want to leave the floor as clean as possible.
You can rent a machine that will remove the tile with ease and the machine will remove most of the mastic on the first pass. It'll cut your time in half.
Check these guys out. Maybe they can help you on getting a machine.
4:00 PM
February 18, 2006
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What seems to be the best way to remove large amounts of flooring. In this case its 51,000 +/- sq feet of flooring tile in a grocery store. Its not ceramic but glue down vynal kind. I need to get the floor as clean as possible for the new flooring that will be a mixture of carpet and ceramic tile. Its being converted to a department store. I am going tomorrow to look at the job at the prebid meeting with the GC, and just want to have an idea as to what i should be looking at equiptment wise. The store is empty and I can bring in diesel powered machinery if needed. There is also internal walls, coolers, freezers, etc to remove.
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