12:30 PM
October 7, 2005
We had protestors one time but they weren't who you would normally think of. Instead of historical preservationists they were animal rights activists. 10 minutes before the building was supposed to come down they demanded to be given permission to go up in the buildings and look for any stray cats. (Cats aren't stupid. They aren't going to stay around and listen to jackleg drillls and hoe rams all day). I told them "There aren't any cats up there, but I did see a pony on the 3rd floor
That's actually becoming a more common problem. I think one of the news mag shows did a piece on it about a few months ago.
The house I looked at was a small two bed one bath ranch with an open kitchen/dining area. The meth was cooked in the kitchen obviously and there were no surfaces that weren't disfigured by the fumes. No paint left, the Linoluem was peeled off the floor, every metal surface was stripped and tarnished, and the residual smell was still overpowering. I can't see how any one could rehab something in that condition. Demo is the only option.
Sorry, James, we got of topic. Maybe we shouldopen a thread dealing with this as it may be a more prevalent case for us.
A little off topic, but my buddy bought a house at an auction that was confiscated by the government. After he lived there about a month or so he noticed he was getting really tired all the time and he was always achey. He went to a bunch of doctors and had a zillion tests performed but nobody could figure out what was wrong. Then he had the house tested and found out it was severely contaminated with chemicals from Meth production. It was in the duct work. Now he has a lawsuit against his local police department and is trying to get his money back.
Wolf I am currently in Birmingham Alabama. I did that old Victorian about ten years ago in a small town in North Carolina.
I believe the historical society put the stairs in storage but their long range plan was to incorporate them into the design of a local museum dedicated to the town heritage (civil war, revolutionary war, and tobacco farming memorabilia).
I don't do that much with houses these days. I have concentrated on industrial and commercial properties. I did look at a residential propoerty recently that had ben used as a meth lab. Scary what that crap does to a structure, much less the human body.
Ther actually is a strong preservation movement especially in the downtwon area. We have a booming loft revitalization business going on here that I would say rivals that in larger metro areas.
5:08 PM
Wow! That is nice of you to preserve these artifacts. Did they incorporate them into the modern bank branch?
Good thing the bank was willing to pay the extra labor costs, though. Otherwise, they probably would have gone into the dumpster, no?
I think that is the key issue here--cost.
By the way, do you get to demo many old Victorian and other historic structures? Whereabouts in the country are you? And how strong is the preservation movement in your area?
Ive not turned one down yet, but I have donated architectural items to local historical societies. I remember a small job demolishing a turn of the century Victorian house for a local bank to build a new branch, and the local society wanted to stop the demo. The bank convinced them that the house was too far gone for saving but that they could have any detail items if it was okay with me. I went along, and ended up dismantling the grand stair case from the foyer, numbering the parts and giving it to them. The bank was happy to cover the extra labor cost so as to keep ths peace with me and with their community. (I also salvaged some art deco light fixtures for myself).
3:15 PM
This is a toughie. I have the greatest respect for old buildings and love to see them preserved and cared for.
On the other hand, we are building wreckers, and to save a building for historical significance would require us to go against our economic interest.
The problem here is that even if we turned down a contract to save a building, some other contractor would have no problem tearing it down.
So the problem is not with us demo guys, it's the developers and money people who decide to destroy a building in the first place.
But as James asked in starting off this really interesting forum, I am really interested to know if any of you have ever turned down the opportunity to wreck a building because of its historical character or possible flack from the community.
After reading Wolf's and my response on the historical church in Seattle.
Had me thinking, yes I know I am crazy for asking but, Have you ever not demolished a building because of historical value or worried about a backlash from the community?
I have not experience either, although I would think this would most likely occur on the East Coast more so than the West Coast.
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