10:03 PM
October 7, 2005
Unfortunately, when it comes to job cost accounting it is "garbage in, garbage out". Field people naturally want to embellish their productivity. Accounting people don't have enough field experience to know if the field people are being honest or not. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes. Everybody is fearful of telling the owner what is really going on so it usually becomes a rude awakening at the end of the year.
Where can I get one of those bidding dartboards? And are they available with soft tip darts? Our saftey director says that we can't use the steel darts in the office, or on the jobsite. Maybe a combination of dartboard and plan weighing could be developed.
We use Excel too and have customized it to track actual costs on a daily basis. It doesn't replace our accounting department, but is great when comparing how the job should have been bid to how it actually ran.
Al
10:16 AM
October 7, 2005
I am currently using an Excell based estimating workbook. It is nice because I have it running on a Blackberry. I can put together an estimate right on the spot. The Blackberry also has a camera so I can take pictures with it also.
I alos have it running on a Toughbook which is a nice computer because it is shock and dust resistant as well as waterproof.
Excell gives you a lot of flexibility. All of the "canned" estimating software is set up for construction and trying to get it to work for demolition is trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
I just finished a consulting contract and the client used a program called Bid2Win. It is pretty nice and it has a module called a data warehouse which stores your historical costs and allows you to arrange it in any manner in which you see fit either by type of structure, city, whatever. I like it so much that I am attending a seminar in December on it.
Then again there always is the good ol' dartboard for bidding
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[font=Times New Roman][size=3]I do not have any experiences with timberline or programs like it. I have an Excel workbook that I am using and customized it. I have heard of people use a customized MS Access program, where they would enter information of the job and then they could pull up similar jobs and do a comparison by SF, Price, or by contractor. I am not very proficient in Access so I wouldn
We have always performed our estimates long hand with three column pads, notebook paper, napkin or just a good old piece of wood. I have been in the process of setting up a system with a windows spreadsheet, however, I would like a way to use the data after the estimate. Has anyone utilized estimating / project management software, ie timberline, etc....
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