So you are saying that everytime the phone rings, you say "Wait, let me give you some other people to call."?

Please do not question my ethics. Would you be offended if I questioned your religious belief?

I can say "let the contractor decide", you can say "let the architect/engineer decide"......

In my opinion I'm right. In your opinion you are right. That is why we have Democrats and Republicans, why we have forums such as this to express our opinions and experiences, it's called freedom of choice!

If someone outsells the product I am selling, good for them. If I outsell the competion, good for me. Last time I checked, the good old USA was still a capitalist society.

The whole project seemed to fly under the radar for ethics. The project seemed to just "slip" unde the City of Indianapolis "legal" wire for consultation without bid number. If I remember correctly, it was about $300k. Funny, I bid $90k for the same work and was told the project was "negotiated. Oddly enough. The contractor tolr me last month he would rather have had taken the dome down with a ball instead of the aggravation caused by poor fragmention. Call Curtis Schopp and verify this.

The Market Square Arena shot went just fine. The pile was high due to the fact that there was a reinforced concrete tunnel running through the center of the building. If you ever saw it, you would most certainly remember you could drive under the building on a City street. Again, as you remember, that road had every utility you could think of underneath. All of which were to remain live throughout the project. The building collapse as far as it possibly could. Everyone knew the tunnel was to remain, there were no surprises for anyone.

Remember this, rfk, they asked us. If they asked you, would you say no?

The first time the owner tried to forbid blasting and forced an improper method. The plan was to try and used a shear to cut the center ring. Blasting was clearly the right choice.

The second time they created two seperate GC packages one for the blasting and one for the prep/cleanup. This created an obvious finger pointing arrangement. No lawsuit was ever filed. The PM works for our firm and I bid the job both times.

The real problem was the project design tried to dictate means and methods. RDZ you hit it on the head very few engineers/architects have the experience to write a good spec for large demolition projects such as stadiums.