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1:31 PM
I didn't miss anything. By implying that there is a certain subset of demo contractors that are media "savvy" you are also implying that there is a class of demolition contractors who aren't. Maybe some contractors don't need all the media attention and would prefer to perform their work out of the spotlight.
I am still waiting to hear LVI's take on it.
8:52 AM
January 26, 2006
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...try re-reading my post DemoDave...clearly, you missed several points.
I'm not sure who you are or what your agenda is in here, but I think I'll depart the forum altogether operating on this tidbit of advice I was given by a dear friend many years ago:
"Never argue with an idiot...they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
9:25 PM
Okay, the only thing we are missing here is LVI's response. "More savvy media contactors....." That's an insult. What do you do with the "less savvy media contractors"?
Do you really edit for OSHA compliance? Why don't you just work safe? It seems to me that is just subterfuge to cut anybody out of the program that you don't want in it.
10:36 AM
January 26, 2006
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No such luck, I'm afraid...the "free press" is (supposedly) reward enough 
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10:02 AM
January 26, 2006
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Greetings all,
Well, you've now entered into my particular arena of expertise, gentlemen, and I feel compelled to shed some light on, what appears to be, a rather befuddling issue...media coverage in the demolition industry.
As a 3rd generation family member, full-time with CDI for nearly 15 years now, I have been involved in the negotiation of literally dozens of different production agreements between our firm and various production entities, networks, major motion picture studios, etc., over the years. One thing I learned VERY early on, is that there are no "guarantees" issued from such entities...nor will there ever be.
Through countless discussions with producers and, more often, their legal departments, we've developed an in-house production agreement that protects us to the fullest possible extent under the law...however, the ONLY things we can truly negotiate for and DEMAND, with regard to editorial matters, is protection of our family name, proprietary information and matters of OHSA compliance (in other words, the camera can "lie" to the audience by distorting distances from leading edges and such, and we
TJD,
I have been there a couple times before. It's just like when you write up a press release or an article for a newspaper or magazine, you can't control what is printed you only hope they print everything.
James
As a project manager and superintendent for CDI, I have done many of these
news and cable show interviews. We do try and include the contractors we work with. We maintain not only business relationships with our contact partners, but many are long time family and business friends.
Unfortunately we do not have total editoral control over these shows. We can not control who hits the cutting room floor.
As for our Las vegas project it was, as always, a pleasure to work with LVI and we look forward to many years of working together with them and all contractors in the industry.
Thomas J Doud
10:56 PM
Imagine this, If Loazo had mentioned LVI then maybe LVI would have included them in their press releases. Viola!! Both companies would have doubled their media exposure.
"mon back! 'mon back!"
10:42 PM
I am not buying what you are selling. What does it hurt to give a plug to the people you worked with on the job?
Why didn't Loazo on the "Today" show give LVI a plug? It seems to me it might just be good for future business.
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But James, in corporate materials do you list the contractor you worked for? What's the difference?
This is a very small industry. Everyone knows who is working for whom on any given job. Any omission is blatant and is an obvious slap in the face.It all boils down to ego and arrogance.
In my brochure I list the jobs that I have completed or that I am currently working on. I list the contractors in my reference section not in my completed/current jobs section.
I don't think its arrogance or ego. To me, when I present myself/or company to a new client or contractor do they really care what contractors I have worked for in the past? Or do they care what projects I have done in the past? Most if you ask me, care if I have done similar projects in size or dollar amount and am/is I/or company capable of completing the project on-time and under budget.
9:45 PM
But James, in corporate materials do you list the contractor you worked for? What's the difference?
This is a very small industry. Everyone knows who is working for whom on any given job. Any omission is blatant and is an obvious slap in the face.
It all boils down to ego and arrogance.
10:48 AM
How about if you were a lowly subcontractor working on a project for a high profile Contractor and had to write a press release? Would you include the Contractor in your press release?
[font=Times New Roman][size=3]Let me ask you this, if you are writing a press release and you had a considerable amounts of saw cutting being done by a sub-contractor, would you mention them in the press release?[/size][/font]
[size=3][font=Times New Roman]I know that comparing saw cutting sub and implosion sub are different in
10:36 PM
I don't get it. :confused: I watched the video 3 times and didn't hear one mention of the Demolition contractor (LVI) who actually had the job. Then I read this press release and there is no mention of Loazo doing the job. What gives???
http://www.hotelmotel.com/hote.....?id=282611
Type "LVI" into the search box
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